Update to Sessions in Google Analytics
Thursday, August 11, 2011 | 6:45 PM
Labels: Code and Configuration
Updated: 8/17/11 at 2:10 PM PST
Beginning today, there will be a small change in how sessions are calculated in Google Analytics. We think this update will lead to a clearer understanding of website interactions. We also want to explain how these changes might impact your reports.
What’s changing?
Currently, Google Analytics ends a session when:
- More than 30 minutes have elapsed between pageviews for a single visitor.
- At the end of a day.
- When a visitor closes their browser.
If any of these events occur, then the next pageview from the visitor will start a new session.
In the new model, Google Analytics will end a session when:
- More than 30 minutes have elapsed between pageviews for a single visitor.
- At the end of a day.
- When any traffic source value for the user changes. Traffic source information includes: utm_source, utm_medium, utm_term, utm_content, utm_id, utm_campaign, and gclid.
As before, if any of these events occur, then the next pageview from the user will be the start of a new session.
How will this affect my Google Analytics data?
This change only applies for visits going forward from today, and your historical data will not change. We’re bringing the definition of session in line with the common definition of a visit. If a visitor leaves your site and returns soon after with a different traffic source value, each visit will be measured with its own session.
Since Google Analytics will start new sessions for all new campaign information, sessions will now have the more accurate attribution information. This will be especially helpful if you use Multi-Channel Funnels. Additionally, by continuing a session when the user closes their browser for only a very short time, sessions will more accurately model a user’s engagement with the website. Overall, this change may slightly increase the number of visits. Based on our research, most users will see less than a 1% change.
We are excited about this update, and look forward to providing you with a better understanding of your website activity. Please leave any question about the change in the comments.
Update 8/17/2011 2:10 PM PST:
We identified an issue responsible for unexpected traffic changes following our recent update to how sessions are defined in Google Analytics. A fix was released at 2pm PST Tuesday August 16th.
The issue affected some sites using the following configurations:
1. If a user comes to a customer’s site with a space in some part of their traffic source data, then revisit the same landing page during that session by refreshing the page or later pressing the back button, a new session will be created for every hit to that page. (Clicking a link elsewhere on the site that leads back to the page should not matter.)
2. Google Analytics implementations using multiple trackers (an unsupported configuration) are also affected when a space is included in the traffic source data. These sites will see fewer visits from new visitors, and more visits from returning visitors (with some variation due to different implementations).
Again, a fix for this issue was released yesterday. Please let us know if you continue to see unexpected traffic changes. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience and continued support.


142 comments:
kazkida said...
I understand that now closing browser doesn't automatically terminate the session. But, at the same time, you imply that if a user close the browser VERY SHORT TIME, the session doesn't end. What minutes is the threshold so that the session terminates since a user close his/her browser?
8:03 PM
Barcelona Collection said...
Congrats on the change... it must feel pretty good to get it done! We've experienced a 50% increase in "traffic" while every other metric: specifically page views and time on site has dropped through the floor. I guess now I'll have to figure out how to use this new data... BTW, to prevent your users from having to frantically deal with and catch up to your changes why not have two views of analytics? A LEGACY view and a NEW or NORMAL VIEW. This would allow us to see both sets of results and get used to the changes.
12:02 AM
Roberto J. Alcalá Sánchez said...
Can the "new session at the end of day" behaviour be disabled (like configuring the 30 minutes time-out for inactivity)?
By the way, I'm worried that access from public computers, if a closed browser doesn't count like a new session, I could have my visitors miss-represented, and be interpreted like having a long session from one visitor instead of short sessions from several visitors.
Can this behaviour also be disabled or modified?
I support the idea of having statistics using the old and new metric definition, this would help comparing the change in analytics data.
1:25 AM
Lorenzo Bossi said...
Could you provide additional information on "the end of the day"?
Is it based on US time, what time?
thanks
Lorenzo
3:00 AM
Raphael Nolens said...
GA visit duration has been intriguing me for a long time.
When I make a segment of visits who stay longer than 7200sec. (=2hours)
and I go to the depth of visit report.
I notice that about 20% only has been on 2 or 3 pages.
How can this be when sessions would actually end after 30 minutes of inactivity.
Theoretical Maximum lenght of a 2 page visit would be 60 Minutes, not?
3:12 AM
Kristoffer Ewald said...
Congrats on the update, it's great everytime the data quality in GA is improved. But it leads to a few questions:
- what time is "end of the day"? I suspect it's at midnight PST, not client side time zone?
- So since a new session is only generated if utm or gclid changes, direct visits following shortly after a "non-direct" visit will still not generate a new session?
- (bonus question: And how is it that even if direct visits following after non-direct visits (within up to 6 months) are still tagged with the last campaigns utm data, there are paths in the multi channel reports where a non direct visit is followed by one or more direct visits?)
3:16 AM
Georg said...
kazkida, from what I know it remains the existing 30 minute threshold. After 30 minutes have passed without any tracking activity, a new visit begins, whether you closed the browser at some point or not.
Raphael, remember a visit can be "reactivated" not just by pageview requests (which affect the 'depth of visit' report) but also by e.g. event calls or social media buttons. Those don't count as page views but restart the 30 minute timer.
3:30 AM
kazkida said...
Georg, Thank you for your comment. It helps a lot!! :-)
3:35 AM
jonas said...
How does events fit into this? Are those equal to pageviews in keeping sessions alive?
4:11 AM
Raphael Nolens said...
@Georg not any visit of the custom segment (visit Lenght >7200sec) has triggered an event or social call.
btw I'm talking about a website with thousands of daily visitors.
and when I create a segment of visits >20hours I have similar results.
My experience is that this relatively small amount of visits that +2 hours totally skew the average time on site of all visits.
4:44 AM
nit said...
It has a positive effect which is the difference between adwords clicks and GA visits. Clients won't be asking why these don't match each other kinda question. Good.
5:05 AM
Tad Chef said...
I often remove the utm_source crap from the URLs of sites I visit. So you count me twice then? I also use a script that automatically strips that crap from the address bar when people arrive on my site, so you count these people also twice?
5:46 AM
Georg said...
Raphael, humm, that was my best explanation. Sorry. No idea at this point.
Jonas, yes, they do. Events initiate a server call and causes the 30 minute to reset, if I'm not mistaken.
Tad Chef, it won't because of the order. The utm-free, second request will not count as a new visit. The other way around, a second request with the utm parameters would count as a second visit, from what I understand.
7:17 AM
pr said...
When did this go into effect? The post starts with 'beginning today' but timestamp was 6:45pm. Did this go on the 11th or supposed to start on the 12th? I'm seeing a lot of weird stuff in my metrics starting during the day yesterday and hoping it's this change.
Why post an announcement in our GA accounts too? And maybe a little heads up that this is coming?
8:48 AM
Justo said...
Technically speaking the 30 min. inactivity interval it is calculated from last gif request to GA server.
Events are trigering aditional gif requests, whenever it are fired, so it keeps sesion alive.
8:51 AM
robert said...
I am see weird stuff bounce rate up 50% time on site down 75% this happened from 11th August.on most visits it count each page viewed as a new visit
9:02 AM
UpDog said...
This is a jarring shift in metrics without any way to maintain meaningful analysis across the gap.
Any way to deal intelligently with this?
Here's analytics example:
http://www.screencast.com/t/rh522agt8eL6
9:53 AM
Jeremy Post said...
Confirming what others have stated: This change is wreaking havoc on our data. It looks like non-paid search traffic is up 30%, but corresponding pageviews are down 30%. And all gains in traffic are Repeat Visits -- which would suggest the second pageview from a paid source (utm_xxxxx=yyyyy) is creating a new session, and dumping the visit data into the wrong channel.
I understand the impetus behind this change, but it's not working as intended. This should be an option for GA users who want it -- not a mandated change.
10:59 AM
Ronald said...
Overall, this change may slightly increase the number of visits. Based on our research, most users will see less than a 1% change.
Good Grief, less then a 1% change!
"Based on our research" I would love to know how you conducted this research.
I am seeing 20% increase in visits, I though I had finally broken free of Panda!
How I am supposed to evaluate these new metrics on steroids vs my previous metrics?
Today vs Yesterday
Visits (+19.59%)
Pages/Visit (-17.66%)
Bounce Rate (+13.80%)
Avg. Time on Site (-22.62%)
% New Visits (-18.03%)
11:03 AM
salvadorallende said...
We have a b2b portal like alibaba.com with a lot of subdomains for our users mini-sites like xxx.alibaba.com and yyy.alibaba.com .
We see our bounce rate increased by 20%! And our pages/visit drop by 20%!
THE PROBLEM IS THAT IN THE SAME TIME WE SEE A DECREASE IN THE TRAFFIC GOOGLE SENT TO US .(we lost a lot of good positions on SERP)
If it's true that the new Google algorithm has changed to take into account the bounce rate, THIS IS A PROBLEM!!!!
How will you address this?
11:04 AM
robert said...
Just talked to my adword account manager who said it could be coding that is wrong on my website? it looks like there is a lot of websites with the wrong code? or GA is wrong?.
below is 10 aug vs 12 aug
47.71% Bounce Rate
Previous: 25.96% (+83.77%)
00:01:04 Avg. Time on Site
Previous: 00:02:52 (-62.63%)
45.15% % New Visits
Previous: 75.55% (-40.24%)
11:42 AM
The Militant Yankee said...
My average time on site has fallen from 7+ minutes to 12 seconds. Each visitor seems to visit the same page 6 times causing my bounce rate to be ridiculous.
I think that this update is an example of someone fixing something that wasn't broken. Now analytics is useless.
1:11 PM
Chris Thompson said...
Most of my sites' key metrics have been very steady during the past few months. However, in the past day I've seen huge jumps in a number of indicators:
Visits:
+22%
Avg. Time on Site:
-30%
New Visits:
-35%
Pages per visit:
-23%
How are we meant to compare our statistics prior to and after this change with such enormous jumps?
How can the average time a user spends on my site possibly be down from 4:15 to under 3 minutes?
Sorry, but this all looks very broken...
4:21 PM
Gunaxin said...
It seems this change is having a drastic effect on our numbers. Not sure if that tells us something about our site / GA implementation, or something is wrong with the update from Google. The results we're seeing (and many others apparently) don't seem to mesh with this blog post though :
Avg Pageviews from 1.98 to 1.68
Time on Site from 1:28 to 1:03
Bounce Rate from 65 to 77%
4:50 PM
Gunaxin said...
Looked into this a bit deeper. It seems the only segment effected by this update is traffic coming from google. Other referral traffic from other sources, and direct traffic still have a consistent bounce rate, pages per visit, and time on site. It is only traffic coming from Google Organic which has changed drastically due to this update.
6:02 PM
Dick said...
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for rat-fu$&ing every metric we use to measure our performance.
Words cannot express how thankful we are for your hard work, dedication, and lack of understanding of your users!
6:16 PM
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7:15 PM
irishMike said...
My statistics too have significantly changed!
20%+ more visits
Pages per visit has gone from ~9 to ~5
Time on site has jumped from over 6 minutes on average to just over 3 minutes
I'm amazed at how such a "small change" to the way Google calculates sessions can result is such a significant change to my daily stats - I rely on these statistics as they give me a good idea of how my website is performing on a daily basis, and I have a number of benchmark figures that I aim to achieve - these benchmarks are now completely useless.
Can someone please let me know if these significant changes are due to an error?
3:05 AM
One Way Furniture said...
This data is not accurate now. I have seen a 45% increase in page visits since this changed happened. I thought my site was recovering from panda. Then I went into Yahoo Analytics to see nothing has changed. I suggest letting us have a "legacy view" so we can see what the "old metrics" are. This change was noted to effect about "1% of page views" I doubt that is accurate since Im seeing a 45% lift that doesnt add up.
9:28 AM
nbarber said...
You ready for this before and after fiasco...
All data below is week over week for Friday:
Total Visits up 22%
Avg Pageviews down 22%
New Visitors down 62%
Returning Visitors up 121%
In actuality, there was almost no change in our traffic week over week according to every other analytics platform we use. What can I do with this data? There's no way to compare historical trending now on any of those GA metrics.
The only visitor metric that seem to be stable is "Unique Visitors" which appears to be normal (basically flat).
I guess until they figure out this mess I'll be changing all of our GA reports to look at Unique Visitors???
10:08 AM
Dave said...
Seeing the exact same thing - dramatic increase in visits and decrease in other metrics. Only source affected is Google Organic.
12:32 PM
RedCardinal said...
How can my New Visitor count go from an average of 77% to 11, 12 and 14% over the past 3 days? I cant even imagine how changing the session could result in such a large delta in New Visit %?
12:51 AM
boozika2000 said...
That's a pretty huge change and renders all previous data kind of useless. "Kind of" because you can learn a lot now from comparing the 2 ways of counting.
However if you went so far, why didn't you start counting a visit if the visitor enters direct as well (not just if the UTM changes)...
Always bothered me that a (direct) entry doesn't update the source of the visit if it the visitor first entered through an adwords campaign for example.
Looks like people are upset here! But the new method gives you some great new insights and is closer to the "truth".
6:36 AM
jleane said...
I'm seeing serious weirdness across pretty much all of my sites too.
Massive decreases in:
- % of new visits
- Average Time spent on site
- Pages / visit
Huge increase in bounce rate (i.e. doubling overnight)
8:06 AM
About Asthma Foundation NSW said...
Yes, my experience is the same. Visits jumped sharply, time spent on site and pages viewed figures down just as sharply.
5:33 PM
Johan said...
Dear Analytics team,
WHAT MORE HAS CHANGED?
My visits number is up (More than 1%) but many other numbers are down significantly including Unique Visitors and Percentage of New Users. (Percentage of new users has been stable for years on my site and is now down ~20%)
Pageviews are also down.
So again, What more has changed?
10:17 PM
mensbasic said...
1:39 AM
mensbasic said...
The update makes my data virtually useless. It makes no sense.
Over the weekend, I feel that around. half of my visits are returning visitors, and the same guest may have seen the same item up to 10 times. In return, my bouncerate sky-high.
It is a vital part to have a website to have a reliable analysis program, but GA is certainly not very reliable right now, and in my case the data produced now are completely useless.
1:42 AM
HenryPUK said...
I use both GA and Omniture SiteCatalyst on my site. There has always been an understandable discrepancy between the visit counts of the two analytics systems, with GA counting more by around 15%.
Comparing this Friday with last, Omniture shows very similar traffic between the two days, as I would expect.
The new GA shows an increase in visits between the two days of >50%, and the discrepancy between the two systems has risen to 78%.
I think I'm reluctantly going to have to abandon GA.
2:08 AM
oew1 said...
We experiencing the same problem that the vistits have increased but the time on site dropped.
We think that somehow one user creates two visits while he is on site … does anyone know how?
3:04 AM
4Ps Marketing said...
Hi,
Having checked on some accounts over the weekend, the impact does appear to be more than 1%. I have written a post summarising how the change can impact on your metrics and understanding of business performance - http://bit.ly/oBYYkS.
Cheers
Peter
3:55 AM
Peter said...
Hi,
Having checked on some accounts over the weekend, the impact does appear to be more than 1%. I have written a post summarising how the change can impact on your metrics and understanding of business performance - http://bit.ly/oBYYkS.
Cheers
Peter
3:57 AM
Peter said...
Sorry - can you delete one of the two previous comments - the one attributed to 4Ps Marketing. I was still logged into a client's google account - although it didn't indicate as such below this form. And pls delete this comment too.
Thanks
Peter
4:00 AM
Asa Fisk said...
For merchants or providers whose customers like to shop around before buying, the effects of this change are enormous - eg. 100% increase in traffic reported for the same number of sales/goals = halving of conversion rate.
Is this really a true reflection of actual visitor conversion?
If 2 out of 10 people buy, that should be a conversion rate of 20%, regardless of whether they clicked on a few ads to get there, no?
4:05 AM
Dave Culbertson said...
What impact does this have on using utm_nooverride=1??
5:02 AM
Rob Walker said...
Getting some weird CPC data, one keyword recorded double the actual clicks shown on AdWords account, also bounce rates have doubled, this is not right I know that for sure????
6:06 AM
MrPitBull said...
Seeing the same thing others are reporting. I am seeing a 20% increase in traffic while bounce rate has skyrocketed, time on site has fallen along with page views. I have traced the problem to all non IE browsers. As IE is reporting the same as always while the other browsers are reporting the false readings. It almost appears as every time someone on a non-IE browser connects that two visits is being reported; one visit that counts like normal and another that counts like a bounce.
6:43 AM
Hugh Gage said...
Look at your New and Returning visits against paid and organic from Google. You may well find the volume and bounce rate remain the same against New but go up against Returning.
7:08 AM
Ronald said...
I'm amazed that no one from Google Analytics has bothered to respond to all these comments.
Frankly, Google has always failed miserably at customer service, (if you read Google Plex, it is actually intentional as customer service "doesn't scale") However, Google needs to acknowledge that there is a problem.
Unfortunately, the only way to get a response from Google is to embarrass them in the media and as far as I can tell the media is ignoring this story. Maybe only the little guys use Google Analytics.
7:53 AM
Marcin said...
This change is harmful, now it will be even harder to identify the first source that delivered the valuable customer.
The number of my visits jumped by 20+%, while BR is way up and all other traffic quality metrics like avg time on site, avg pages/visit are down.
Returning visitors used to be a segment with best performance data and CR, you could look how they navigate the site and make adjustments to it based on that knowledge, now those returning visitors have higher BR that new visitors - this is bollocks.
Google Analytics team, why don't you give people choice to use the old way that counted visits, a change like that should not happen without any grace period
8:44 AM
jeff said...
I suspect what's happening is the referral from Google's search result is being incorrectly tallied under the "traffic source" change. Specifically, the first page a visitor views has one traffic source while the next page they visit doesn't have that traffic source info attached to it, resulting in a second visit.
Judging from our analytics reports, this is only an issue affecting Google referrals. As such, the size of the effect will depend on how much traffic your site gets from Google. For us, we got the majority of our visits from Google so our visit counts were up by more than 50% after the change (while other metrics like % new visits, etc. were similarly affected).
8:54 AM
Nathan said...
As of Thursday we are seeing drastic changes in our Google Analytics numbers. The visits shown for search engine traffic have increased anywhere from 50 to 75 percent. Our bounce rates have increased by about 15 to 20 percent and up to 40 percent for some pages. Our percentage of new visitors has decreased by about 30 percent. Traffic coming from referring sites has not seen the change in numbers. It seems mainly related to traffic from the search engines.
My guess is one the new variables used to signify a new session is changing in an unaccounted for manner, which is causing the drastic change in the data.
When I correlated the data to our web logs, the data in Analytics definitely seems off.
9:29 AM
Nathan said...
As a follow up to what Jeff said, we are seeing the increase in numbers from Bing, Yahoo, and Ask as well as Google. The numbers are not distorted from referral traffic that is not from a search engine.
9:32 AM
Google +1 Button said...
Time on site and average page views per visit are down 23% week/week on one site and 28% on another. These are metrics I definitely use to determine content and layout changes, way too big of and adjustment overnight IMO.
11:45 AM
paulypops said...
Seeing the same as everyone else here, it is making any data I look at useless, as I can't rely on it, I look forward to hearing Googles response some time in the future.
12:13 PM
Nathan said...
Maybe if a more detailed explanation could be given covering common situations for which utm_source, utm_medium, utm_term, utm_content, utm_id, utm_campaign, and gclid change and how it relates to Analytics data might help. For example, if a user searches for a term in Google, visits a page, goes back to Google and searches for a different term and clicks on a link to the same page again does that start a new session? I'm thinking this change means it would start a new session unlike the previous Analytics version, but that is not 100% clear to me. If a user searches in Google for the same term a second time and clicks the link this does not start a new session? I'm thinking it does not?
12:24 PM
Michel Laevens said...
2:38 PM
Fred's Days Out said...
I can't believe this change has been implemented correctly...
GA is now saying that my returning visits from google adwords have jumped from about 10-ish per day to 80-ish and total visits from 110-ish to 180-ish, while adwords tells me that it's still delivering the usual 110-ish clicks per day!
I don't see how it can be right that I'm now seeing almost two visits for each adwords click?
Furthermore, while my total site visitors have stayed pretty much constant over the days before/after this change, my total site visits have jumped about 30%, thereby invalidating pretty much all my useful historical trend data!
Google - please could you take a look and respond. Thanks.
4:44 PM
JK said...
How is this change effecting iOS SDK users?
I ask because I've noticed that my analytics have dropped since the introduction of the new session management changes.
how can i guard against this? Is it actually related to the session upgrade? Is there a fix planned? Is anyone else having this issue?
Thanks,
John
6:24 PM
Mark said...
Same issue. I thought I was going crazy. Our traffic is up over 30% Bounce is way up, page time way down and returning visitor spiked.
What a waste of my and everyone else time here.
8:05 PM
Unknown said...
is it just me but does parameter based visit methodology seem super flawed????
12:11 AM
mikee_p said...
Can you please give me an ETA on when we are likely to see GA put back to a functioning state?
These new figures are pretty useless to me.
1:02 AM
Redacción Iberoamérica said...
Avg. Time on Site for some (many) referring sites is 00.00.00. How can I explain this to my customers? Superfast visits? Ghost visits? Non-visits?
I really appreciate the effort and the good service Analytics provides, but I thinkt that some of these changes have to be tweaked.
1:50 AM
Jon said...
We're experiencing the same problems as many others. % New Visitors dropped from a consistent 80% to 20%. Visits up, bounce rate up, time on site down, pages per visit down.
How is anyone supposed to get meaningful data when such things are launched clearly without adequate testing.
I know this is a free tool but many use it to measure effectiveness of paid campaigns on Adwords and if Google want people to continue to spend money on advertising with them then these problems need to be addressed ASAP. They have wasted a lot of peoples valuable time and I'm sure made a large number of webmasters panic when they saw their stats.
2:15 AM
Hugh Gage said...
I think Google have released this in the wrong order. They mention the Multi Channel Funnels in the original post but to my knowledge this is not yet a standard feature in GA. They should have released MCF first then made the update, I suspect it might have made more sense then.
What doesn't make sense is the disparity between clicks from adwords and visits from adwords, with, in many cases, visits now higher than clicks. That is odd.
2:38 AM
Ceneje.si said...
Bounce rate up, time on site down, pages per visit down, avg. time on page down...
How on earth am I supposed to compare the statistics??? Not to mention I've spent hours on figuring out if there is something wrong with my servers or code.
Google, you are changing into second Microsoft - and that is not a compliment.
2:54 AM
Peter said...
I agree with Huge, I don't think there is an error in the implementation, I think the timing is more likely to be wrong along with the communication. This change does appear to be designed to complement MCF which are not yet available to everyone. It should make more sense when this is rolled out.
So, Google has redefined visits and this has casued a significant step change in metrics for a lot of people. Communication could have been better - you may see significant changes, not a < 1% change.
But everyone should remember that web analytics is about using data to improve business performance. That means looking at current performance and drilling into the data. Comparisons against historical numbers are useful but not essential. Well they are for reporting but not decision making. Even then, given this was a step change, people should be able to calculate the scale of the change and apply this to historical numbers to compare across time.
The data is not broken and the numbers are not useless, they are just going to be difficult to use for a couple of weeks. Launch a major new marketing campaign or new site redesign and you could see similar changes.
Having said that, the numbers some people are reporting sound weird. There should not be a decline in New Visits, I would like to know what is causing that.
3:32 AM
KO said...
We run a number of different sites and we saw huge increases (30%-70%) in visits but large decreases in pageviews/visit. None of our sites saw anywhere near a 1% change. We do have Facebook Connect on our pages - could this be messing up GA?
4:05 AM
Piotr said...
Something went really wrong.
traffic from adwords was always on about 80-90% of clicks level.
Now it's 200-300%.
4:48 AM
Chacsam said...
Same here, since this "update", organic traffic has so-said doubled and my Adwords traffic is now around twice as high as the number of clicks on adwords which can only be wrong.
What next?
6:10 AM
NGATX said...
Issues seem to be specific to traffic where source = google. If you build an adv. segment, excluding this condition; all these metrics return to historical levels. FYI.
7:42 AM
Corporate mole said...
I am seeing similar issues with some customer accounts.
Most notable with ecommerce sites that get a lot of traffic from Google organic and Google product search.
Traffic up nearly 50%, Bounce rate up, Time on site down and percentage of new visitors down too.
Would like to hear from Google whether there is a bug in the new GA, or whether the new figures simply reflect a better defined reality.
7:48 AM
d188985v said...
We run an insurance site and historically bounce artes for the site have been less than 20%. They doubled on Thursday and have been consistently showing a site bounce rate of 68%
Our traffic is derived almost exclusivley from Adwords. What has gone on here as the increase has affected badly our ad cost and positioning
8:29 AM
Chris K said...
Love my 20% jump in phantom visits.
This change completely destroys the usefulness of new data relaltive to historic data. Flying blind for the time being.
Argrgrgh
9:40 AM
PCN said...
My ecommerce site had a bounce rate of less than 1% for more than 2 years. Starting on August 11th, it has been more than 20% or 30% (that's more than 2000% change). Average time on the site has also dropped by 1-2 minutes. I agree with the others; it seems like something went wrong with this change.
9:40 AM
JCDobber said...
I use time on site of 2:00 as a conversion in adwords. So this screws up my adwords campaigns as well. Is this new way of measuring reliable??
11:45 AM
Gordon said...
First off - thanks for the explanation. I noticed the surge in traffic on Thursday afternoon, and had no idea what was going on.
My blog is set to let people scan it easily and click out to external links (it's a blog that highlights public affairs jobs in DC)and there's not a lot of reason for people to click on older posts - I saw a 50% increase in traffic, but the time on site associated with my most popular search terms went from an average of 2-3 minutes to less than 30 seconds, or even near zero in a lot of cases.
Is this going to ultimately affect my google page rank for these terms?
12:05 PM
Dave said...
We're seeing the same issues. A 20% increase in "visits" and, more concerning: now Google Analytics is reporting 30% more visits from cpc than adwords reports in clicks. I would really appreciate some feedback from the Analytics team on their comfort level with the accuracy of this new approach. Re-baselining our KPI goals is time consuming and very frustrating.
4:26 PM
irishMike said...
"We are excited about this update, and look forward to providing you with a better understanding of your website activity. Please leave any question about the change in the comments.
Posted by Trevor Claiborne, Google Analytics Team"
Whats the point? You don't seem to reply - with so many negative comments, I'd have expected a full explanation by now!
11:16 PM
Darren said...
This is really affecting our stats also. I manage 5 or 6 analytics accounts and the stats since the 11/08 are all over the place, some are seeing jumps of 70% in visits, its a nightmare. Conversion rates have disappeared, as other say it is almost impossible to compare data since the 11th with any time period before.
We are seeing the effect across all trafic sources, not just Google.
Further clarification from Google on this is required!
1:25 AM
jleane said...
I do hope Google gets back to us on this, it's very frustrating and I worry that the sudden spike in bounce rates will mess up my rankings.
I can't possibly see how the new data being generated can be accurate - for example, the change in % of new visitors going from 90% to 30%. That just doesn't make sense - the types of sites I run are generally not conducive to repeat visits.
On top of that, I don't see how you can reconcile a huge drop in new visits with a huge increase in bounce rate. People are coming back to my sites only to bounce away again? Doesn't make sense.
1:45 AM
irishMike said...
Mmm, I wonder if Google have rolled back the earlier changes - my stats this morning so far look normal again.
1:53 AM
dqsdqdfz said...
same for me irishMike
1:58 AM
Franz Enzenhofer said...
hmmm.... definitly settles down a bit? if they did a backroll i hope they communicate it? we did a backroll on one of our sites, as we did a major rollout on the day they changed their stats....... so basically if they did a backroll, and we did a backroll, then er are f**** again.....
3:08 AM
matou said...
This is stranage.. Nearly 6 days after the roll-out, I still see part of my traffic as double. If I add-up my clics in Adwords, I have approximately half of what Analytics records as Google CPC traffic.
Any news from Google of a potential roll-back?
4:38 AM
Lucas said...
Bounce Rate: +4%
New Visits: -19%
Pags/Visit: -1 Page
Timwe on Site: -1 Min
Unique Visitors: -1,000
The following took a spike on Aug 14th:
Page Views: +7%
Visits: +2,000
Unique Visits: +600
7:39 AM
Dave Culbertson said...
There's been a report of a fix here: http://www.l3analytics.com/2011/08/15/change-to-definition-of-a-visit-in-google-analytics/#comment-1545
7:40 AM
maxfatter said...
I guess free tool does come with a price. Google can do whatever they want, and we have no control of it.
7:45 AM
whyme said...
this breaks a lot of fundamental rules and concepts in web analytics. Metrics like page view per visit no longer means what it used to means. In my opinion, I think this is wrong.
7:52 AM
Shashikant Kore said...
Dear Google Team,
Please provide a solution to this. The numbers in present form are not really useful.
thank you
8:02 AM
Grudaman said...
I am having big issues here!!!
Almost reverse a release of ecommerce platform due to the absurd increase in bounce rate.
Is there anybody at google working on this?
Not even the own google platforms matches the data just take a look at the GA and AdWords click on a campaign
8:27 AM
Flowerchild said...
We have a unique situation in that we have a website with only one unique visitor as it is only accessed by a single touchscreen mounted in a public area. Before the change to visitor reporting we had about 40-60 visits/day. After the change we are now seeing 4-5 visits/day.
But, most significantly, since the change. The count of pageviews each day stops once we reach about 510-530 pages. If we reach that number at say 3:00pm we get no more pageviews counted for the rest of the day even though people are using the touchscreen.
Can anybody think why that would be? We have such a simple application here that I thought there might be a clue in what we are seeing that might explain some of the other reported behaviour on regular websites.
The touchscreen has kisosk software which I believe does restart the browser every 15 minutes if no one is using the screen.
9:28 AM
WebNinja said...
this will help google attribute more visit to their keywords, thus appears that their adword business is helping your website more.
10:54 AM
Trevor Claiborne said...
Hi everyone,
My apologies for not replying sooner to these comments. I have been passing on everyone's comments to the engineering team. We're investigating and should have more information soon.
11:34 AM
maxfatter said...
Please reverse the source per visit thing, this is just wrong.
12:08 PM
Legitimate Blog said...
I've had the rollercoaster UP for the past couple of days (up for visits and bounce rate to a ridiculous extent I may add) and DOWN for time on site and pageviews - which must explain why I made the same amount of $ as always ...??
And now it seems things are back to "normal"? ...till the next time.
Google posted: "We are excited about this update"
Why? I honestly do not see anything to get excited about when the data fluctuates like this.
1:20 PM
Fred's Days Out said...
Trevor - Thanks. I think lots of people were beginning to think that Google was ignoring this. Your response is very much appreciated.
1:24 PM
Christian Oliveira said...
Thanks for the update!
So, the data from Friday, 12th of August of 2011 to Monday/Tuesday, 15/16th of August of 2011 remains the same and is invalid, is that true?
I've been experiencing very weird things this morning, like seeing different graphs for the same metric. For example, comparing the graph showed on the Dashboard for visits with the one on Visitors->Overview->Compare two metrics (Visitors, Visits), was different (the second one was more "normal").
Anyway, launching this change the same day you announced the rollout of the new algorithm change to improve SERPs quality (a.k.a. Panda) was definitely not a good idea...
Hope data is correct starting on Tuesday 16th of August.
2:46 PM
pr said...
You guys really messed up here. You had a fix in yesterday which means you knew what the issue was prior to the 16th. And you tell us the morning of the 17th that you're looking into it, and the afternoon that it was fixed 24 hours ago?
Handled very poorly.
4:19 PM
Ameya said...
Hi,
We are seeing unexpected rise in the direct traffic to site which is like 5 times the average direct traffic yesterday also we are seeing large referral traffic from our non www domain to www site.
Is this also part of the issue???
10:25 PM
DariusK said...
Hi,
Our visits have halved overnight from 1.5 million to 750,000 (tuesday to wednesday).
2:47 AM
tape said...
Also we experienced visit drop for almost 50% in Wednesday compared to Tuesday. Now visits are little bit lower than before this whole thing started.
4:42 AM
Col SD said...
Data is still wonky. Bounce rate has gone from consistent 45% pre Aug 12 to 54% post Aug 12 to today, 18th. Pages per visit has gone from consistent 5.5 pre Aug 12 to 4.0 now.
I am also wary that a (pageviews / unique visitors) measure seems to have moved since Aug 12 as well. Could this change have also added new unique users somehow, I wonder?
5:36 AM
okpemails said...
So is this the new Analytics then? No corrections to match previous data? Was this closer to our true bounce, daily visitors, time on site, etc. rate all along?
6:10 AM
Unknown said...
A quick recommendation to the GA team. As a data analytic, the most important thing is data consistency. The ability to measure changes in traffic, conversion, bounce, etc. is the most important aspect of an analytics effort. Changing how the data elements are captured and reported makes ALL prior data useless. In the future, if you are going to make a change, just add a new data element and we can start shifting over to that element. For people who look at Seasonal changes (year over year), you've just hosed up any comparisons to prior years, and make using GA useless. I fear changes like this will drive people to use other reporting tools - we're having to do that now because the "improved" measurements are meaningless when viewed on any time line continuum. You threw the baby out with the bathwater...
6:28 AM
Schnack said...
Hi GA team,
Thanks for finding the bug - data seem to be back to before 11 Aug.
Thank you for your quick response to this issue.
Cheers,
Steen
6:54 AM
Redacción Iberoamérica said...
Calm down and give them a break. You are receiving this service for free, remember?
8:07 AM
PCN said...
As of yesterday, my bounce rate is back to the levels it had been before the 11th. I'm not sure what Google data, but things seem to be back to normal for my company.
1:09 PM
Dave said...
Thank you for fixing this issue. Our visit count is still overstated by 5% compared to before the session change. That's way better than the 20% change that was being reported prior to the fix.
1:56 PM
DA said...
My numbers still wrong,
Bounce Rate: +20%
Pags/Visit: -2 Pages
Time on Site: -1 Min
visits: -50.000
1:58 PM
Dave Chung said...
Our visits spontaneously dropped over 90%. It was correctly recording data this morning, then by the afternoon, all of our visits (and other metrics) dropped by approximately 90%. It looks like there are still bugs in the system.
2:30 PM
Its-a-review! said...
Our daily traffic from UK, all referrals from google has dropped by 80% on evening of the 15th Aug at about 9pm CET. As of today 18th Aug it's still down 80%. We have spent days analyising our site for reasons and so mad to think it could be a reporting issue. Is anyone still seeing these levels of falls?
2:37 PM
mattb2000 said...
on the 14th our daily visits went up by 30% and our avg page views and time on site dropped by 30%. On the 17th, it seems our traffic is up by 15% and our pv and tos is back up somewhat. Maybe on the 20th it'll all be back to normal????
3:57 PM
순돌이 said...
I'm having an issue. There is no data recorded since Aug. 18. Please refer to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Analytics/thread?tid=3be2927440bade79&hl=en
12:02 AM
Franz Enzenhofer said...
1:34 AM
MikeTheMan said...
Our PPC traffic had bounce rate of
70%
I introduced comprehensive negative keyword list and it fell to 10-20%
This change was made and it's jumped back to 70% and has settled at 50-60%.
So what we saying here?
Originally it was at 90/95%?
Not accurate is the bottom line.
Also, % of New visits fell from 90% (typical of PPC) to 50%? Dont think so. I dont think that many people were returning via PPC. This has crept back up to %70/80 but I'm still dubious.
Why large multinational companies don't TEST software updates before release I'll never know. It's the first thing most business people learn. You could be forgiven if it wasn't for the fact it's so easy to get some real world examples, not just the one fresh test website loaded up in Wamp in an office.
"Well it works on natural traffic, I'm sure it'll work fine for PPC, lets go home for lunch!"
1:39 AM
Its-a-review! said...
Update on my earlier post. While most people here are reporting increase in visits and drop in other metrics we are seeing the opposite and still case on 19th Aug
Visits - down 80%
Avg time on site up 35%
Bounce down 13%
Returning visitors up 12%
As stated this happened all of sudden on 15th August at about 9pm GMT.
4:12 AM
PierreGW said...
Hello,
We always have difficulties with Google Analytics. A lot of data is missing.
18 august:
-from 00:00 GMT+1 to 09:00 GMT+1, we almost have no data
from 15:00 GMT+1 to 21:00 GMT+1: no data
19 august:
from 07:00 GMT+1 to now: no data
By the way, our trafic had a 70% decrease yesterday, compared to the last week. But with another tool, we can see that we have the same number of users.
Is it delayed?
Best regards,
Pierre
8:20 AM
Anand said...
We're having similar issues on our site - http://www.burrp.com/ Since the past two days the traffic has dipped almost 80%. However the adsense account shows the correct number of impressions.
10:30 AM
DA said...
When can we get an answer of our issues?
12:16 PM
Unknown said...
THIS CHANGE IS DEVASTATING !!! THIS IS DESTROYING THE TRAFFIC PUBLISHER BUSINESS...DIRECT ADVERTISERS ARE SEEING HUGGGGGE VISITOR DISCREPANCIES ALL OF THE SUDDEN.
12:16 PM
Ronald said...
I'm not sure what is going on now with Google Analytics. My stats seem to have returned to about 10% less then normal, including last week stats.
However, one thing that the group over at GA has done exceptionally well with your lack of communication and your complete disregard for common courtesy, is communicating towards your end users our complete lack of importance.
Thank you for making that so incredibly clear. Since, Mr Paige has taken over at Google he has shut down many non-money making services, such as Google Labs and the Google toolbar for Firefox, one thing I ask is that before you shut down Google Analytics for good, please give us a few weeks notice.
Thank You.
2:25 PM
Abbott1 said...
Anyway, I don't consent with a point or two although the remaining appears professional. sytropin
9:58 PM
jeper1979 said...
Our stats is still messed up.. the update on teh 16th didnt help in our case.
Our site is pretty much stable troughout the year..
I compared 3/8-5/8 with 17/8-19/8
Bounceratere is up +100,17%
Visitors is up +41,17%
Time on site is down -40,40%
Pages/visit is down -30,02%
New visitors is down -18,73%
Pageviews is the same.
Unique visitors is rougly the same.
Really hope to get this fixed.. really messed this up.
3:59 AM
whyme said...
I don't know why are you guys have your revenue critical data depended on a free tool that has no obligation to be liable for any changes they've made.
7:58 PM
Dave said...
Hi guys,
The update on the 16th hasn't had any effect on our anlytics set-up
bounces from PPC traffic have increased from 30% to 90% - a worrying stat, particularly when agreeing budgets for adword spends
My biggest worry here is that the adwords account is reporting completely different stats
1:56 AM
lucintel said...
My site performance was also increased by about 40 percent within 1 week from 8th to 16th august. Is that was the effect of same update...?
2:01 AM
Spanishgringo said...
@GA Team
Why would pageviews be affected by this change? I can understand avg. pageviews or pages per visit changing by session definition adjustments, but I do not understand why total pageviews would be affected in any way by these changes.
We are seeing fluctuations in total pageviews since your changes on the 11th and 16th.
We'd appreciate your clarification on this topic
2:20 AM
matou said...
I would appreciate if anyone could explain me why I see X paid clicks in my Adwords account and one third more in Analytics. None of the explanation from Google could result in such a discrepancy.
4:50 AM
Spanishgringo said...
@whyme
Your rationale does not hold up very well. We depend on "free" products and services all of the time both offline and online.
Google search is a free product and most websites (especially e-commerce) are dependent on it for generating revenue. No free search would mean a lot less visits generating a lot less "critical" revenue.
How many websites today depend critically on other "free" products and services? Should sites not depend on Apache or MySQL because they are free? How about jQuery? How about Chrome, Firefox (IE not really free because you need to buy Windows), or Opera?
The truth is that GA is not really free. We get the tool to use without paying any money, but Google is reaping huge benefits from the data that they collect from GA implementations and statistics. Granted it is only "aggregate" data but that is worth at least millions to them to improve search and adwords.
From the GA FAQ:
Your website data will not be used to affect your natural search results, ad quality score or ad placement. Aggregate data across many customers will be used to improve our products and services.
How much would it cost Google to collect that data if GA were not free?
In general, GA is a great tool and very useful for all that use it (webmasters, partners, and Google). The GA team just needs to do a better job at communicating to end users and treat us like professional users.
7:37 AM
jurrien said...
What a horrible change at a horrible time without any heads up.
Back from vacation, nearly experienced a heart attack and spent almost a day on figuring why our conversion rates had dropped so dramaticaly.
Now I have at least found the source of the problem, which leaves me with trying to figure out how I'm going to be able to compare our data from the past 4 years with the new data.. wow
9:47 AM
Costas said...
I'm not sure if this is related or not, but did you guys change the refresh mechanism for updating the live reports?
I used to see updates on the data within 10 minutes timeframe, and that was very cool, now the data seem to be 3-4 hours late. Is there a way to speed the report back to where it was?
3:39 PM
maxfatter said...
@Spanishgringo , then go ahead and demand a refund from Google. Let me know what you got, I will double that amount for you.
7:21 AM
dw said...
Shows my visits having dropped, not increased as Google's post indicates it should. Time on site, page views per user went up. My actual visits did not go down according to my own internal metrics. I was wondering what the heck happened, though I don't know why Google says visits should go up when for me they show going down.
8:59 AM
CBF said...
Has this been rolled out to ALL GA users? My reports as recently as August 29 are not showing any changes.
7:00 AM
MrPitBull said...
Trying to determine here on Sept 6, 2011 how everyone's numbers are now faring. The blog does not seem to report date of posts, so therefore it is difficult to determine how everyone is doing now.
6:44 AM
aLe said...
Hello, I have a big problem with the risults of my tracking.
I have a few websites that I am tracking both individually and globally:
var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-XXXXXX-XX']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
_gaq.push(['rollup._setAccount', 'UA-YYYYYYY-Y']);
_gaq.push(['rollup._setDomainName', 'none']);
_gaq.push(['rollup._setAllowLinker', true]);
_gaq.push(['rollup._trackPageview']);
For some of them (not all) I gained a lot of traffic which is generated mostly from direct access (and it's wired).
What worries me is that the bounce rate of this traffic is 88% and the new users are 92 to 99%.
That makes all my data unreliable and unuseful!
What happened? How do I solve it??
Thank you
Alessandro
4:03 AM
Candy said...
The following parameters changed for our site on the 11th August. This is a copy from new GA Intelligence
Avg. Time on Site All Traffic Daily Aug 11, 2011 -34%
Bounce Rate Campaign: Various Items Daily Aug 11, 2011 33%
Bounce Rate Medium: cpc Daily Aug 11, 2011 41%
Bounce Rate Source: google Daily Aug 11, 2011 13%
Bounce Rate AdWords, Campaign: Various Items Daily Aug 11, 2011 33%
% New Visits All Traffic Daily Aug 11, 2011 -15%
% New Visits AdWords, Campaign: Various Items Daily Aug 11, 2011 -23%
I am unable to explain that why the bounce rate should increase for our Campaigns/Adwords traffic. It has gone from mid-30s to high 40s. Also our new vs returning percentage has changed substantially. It has affected our revenue from Adwords substantially - nearlly down by 30% in the month of August.
Please Help!!
1:46 AM
Dhaval Mehta said...
exactly same as everyone else, it's making any data I look at useless, as I can not rely on it, I look forward to hearing Googles response some time in the future.
2:02 AM
Analytics said...
all my conversions are assigned since to paypal instead of the source. does utm_nooverride has no use now??
12:00 AM
Jules Design said...
I tested my web site and Google Analytics:
1. I typed in my URL in Google search with key words I could track. They were "my_domain.ca 2 minute test"
2. I then found my web site, clicked in and stayed there for 2 minutes exactly. Moving the scroll bar up and down, I interacted with the site. After 2 minutes sharp, I logged off.
3 It took about 15 minutes for the click through to show up on Google Analytics.
4. It identified my hit to the site as 0.00.
Translation: I have to wonder how accurate Googles data for time really is.
11:06 AM
carinsurance said...
How does events fit into this? Are those equal to pageviews in keeping sessions alive?
5:44 AM
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